Not to mention being a one club league, at best 2 club league some years. They have virtual lock on Germany.
We think itās a problem Daniel Ek has shown no proper plans to take this club foward and heās aligning himself with icons to get brownie pointsā¦when we know for a fact that the Kroenkeās do literally nothing as @Craigie had described very well. Apart from making sure that the books and legal proceedings make sense (Lewis and Garlick). Weāve honestly reached such a low point that I donāt mind if this deal with Ek happens even without any proper plans. Change will need to come from top down. If in that regard nothing changes weāre definitely stuck at the point where we are now.
Btw, just that he hasnāt made anything public it doesnāt mean that he doesnāt have any and that this club is going to be controlled by Vieira, Henry and Bergkamp alone.
In the end itās all probably moot anyway.
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Where do people stand on the fan representation point that people from the Ek side are mainly pushing?
I get accountability to fans but fan representation sounds like a disaster to me.
They arenāt going to let unqualified people make decisions so I donāt see what difference it really makes.
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Thatās my worry about this. The plan so far feels a bit reactionary to me and not well thought. Weāll see if they elaborate on it better.
I wonder if any more hats enter the ring. A few people have spoken about acquiring Arsenal and it not being for sale. Usmanov for example spent years increasing his own stake and waiting for Stan to sell his. It looks like he sold up because it wasnāt going to happen but if thatās now a possibility maybe heās still interested.
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We already have unqualified people making decisions.
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I was thinking this too surely a dude who used the name Red and White Holdings and pined after the club for literally years would fancy this opportunity to come in and make his dreams a reality.
Footballās dead enough to me these days that Iād happily bath in that dirty dirty oligarch blood money.
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Football and basically everything else that is a something today has been and continues to be funded by, started with or associated with dirty money in some way or the other. So not sure why anyone would have an issue with whoever buys our club and where their money comes from, unless thereās a chance they could have their assets frozen and the club ends up in the cross fires.
This whole āworking classā club rhetoric is just nonsense, most of these clubs have been owned by wealthy people since the inception of the football league, doubt the money from Victorian England was any ācleanerā than the money now 
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Touche
Hard to know if an owner will hire good people - they have no real knowledge of the business/sporting side so they are pretty much totally reliant on the management team they put in placeā¦ lots of sporting owners are idiots and do a terrible job for their clubs, even the āfanboyā ones like you see in the NFL with Snyder.
Are there ANY owners in the top football clubs that made their money in football?
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If Ek does buy us, letās hope he has looked at what Kroenke has done since heās been here and learn from his many mistakes.
I doubt will happen but, if it does, he should do the opposite of everything our owner has done.
If there was a book about āthe wrong way to run a football clubā or āthe best way to ruin a football club,ā Kroenke would win the booker prize.
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Yeah gotta lol at ppl asking what Ekās plan is. Currently we have no fucking plan anyways and we are fucking shit. If Ek takes over only thing he could do worse is get us relegated and thatās not gonna happen. We need new leadership because the Kroenkeās donāt have a flying fuck what is going on.
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Asking what his plan is and thinking our current plebs plan is shit are not mutually exclusive.
Apologies, I meant Ekclusive
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Donāt know any in football but in the NFL Paul Brown of the Bengals and Mark Davis of the Raider made vast majority of their wealth though their teams. Theyāre pretty poorly operated orgs
Yeah I am firmly in the camp of āit really canāt get any worseā¦ can it?ā
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TBF Mark Davis just inherited team from his father, no?
So he was an owner for a long, long time well before the bonkers acceleration of wealth in sport, let alone football. And Paul Brown got in back then too, basically a coachās salary is what allowed him to buy 1/3 of the new franchiseā¦ pretty sure those days are long gone =)
Iām hearing Arsenal started following ek today on Twitter ?
Well they arenāt now
A lot of famous CEOās/new shareholders had no experience in the running of a football club. They still succeeded however.