Bret Hart Was Quite Good

Oh I know lol

Fuck me. Case closed.

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(Last time Jericho was main event champion in WWE btw)

For this absolutely useless lump.

Jericho is one of the main event guys I never quite understood.

He always didn’t really fit in for me. Obviously had some amazing matches but that whole WCW lot that came over I saw him as being a less credible world champion than Benoit and Guerrero - who both looked tough as nails in comparison.

Interesting, I’d have Eddie and Jericho over Benoit. Everything about Benoit was legit…until he gets a microphone. All downhill from there.

I never understood why Jericho spent so much time as a heel. He was an amazing face, in that time anyway. Only Austin and Rock were more over in the early 2000s.

WWE better not put him on my screen in 2026.

Random thought, always thought Jericho suffered from not having a consistent finisher/signature move. Lionsault was ehhh. In WCW they were happy for his matches to mostly end in submission (Liontamer/Walls of Jericho). WWF/WWE much less so (People also broke out of it a lot more in WWE).

I thought the codebreaker was cool, but came too late…and during a time finisher kickouts was becoming a thing.

Oh they will, they will. And it’s going to be terrible lol

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The Walls of Jericho was an awesome finisher when it was actually the Walls / Liontamer and not when he switched it to a Boston Crab.

But yeah, he never quite had that high impact move that could get him a 3 count. I remember him using opponents finishers in matches where he needed something that could produce a near fall.

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He had been doing the Judas Effect in recent times, the spinning back elbow, but more often than not it looked pretty weak.

Fuck me. :sob:

Saw a podcast clip which asked Seth Rollins his Mount Rushmore of heels

Mine is:

Hollywood Hogan, Ric Flair, Roddy Piper and Vince McMahon

This is a purely personal shout, not any sort of objective assessment, but around the time I started watching the Undertaker legitimately scared me lol

I so badly needed this demonic, eyerolling motherfucker to be defeated :joy:

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I think Punk is probably top of mine. Then I’d say Vince, Triple H.

I’m probably in a minority here but I actually thought Austin’s heel work in 2001 was good. The actual decision to turn him heel was questionable but as a teenager I really wanted to see him lose and when Angle beat him by dq at summerslam it felt really big, and when he actually dethroned him at Unforgiven that was a great moment.

Honourable mention to Paul Heyman. I don’t think you can actually put him on Mount Rushmore because he’s not a wrestler but he’s legitimately been the best promo in the business for 30 years which is pretty impressive. Even Vince lost his touch in a fraction of that time.

Oh, and not on Rushmore but Yokozuna - man, as an 8 year old kid, I just saw no way he could ever lose. Plus Mr Fuji with the salt in opponents eyes and he made the Banzai Drop a nuclear bomb of a finisher.

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Is that the SES iteration or his last heel run with the WWE Championship?

Both were great. If he’s got time left, he should really have another heel run. He’s good as a face, although a bit bland at the moment. But being a heel is what made him a star, and it’s what he should be the overwhelming majority of the time.

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The PPV where the streak was broken.

Good news! Sounds like he’s due to sign after his AEW contact expires on the 31st December.

I have people close to me now, Bryan being one, who is suffering daily like myself from his neck.

Bryan must have done some serious damage to his body in that AEW run. First it was hin admitting that travel has been rough for him being an commentator now and now Regal highlights their neck problems.

Oh good.

He should bring back that gimmick he did on one of his returns where he turned instantly heel by never talking, and expand it to also include never wrestling. Or appearing on TV.

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