Arsène Wenger

[Powderfinger]

@Trion

I do not believe Wenger was the CFO of Arsenal managing contract negotiations and maintaining accounts.

You keep saying stuff like this despite the fact that Wenger himself directly contradicted it in interviews. This is what Wenger said about the socialist wage structure at Arsenal during this period.

Asked whether he set the wage structure at Arsenal, which has been criticized for having a too narrow band compared to other clubs, Wenger said: “Yes. I don’t know how it works with others. But its not only me, it’s in cooperation with the board. When we want to go ‘far’ I ask for the authorisation of the board.” However, it is understood that Wenger, once he is given a budget, sets the pay bands with the board deferring to his judgement.

[Trion]

@Powderfinger

Wenger said: “Yes. I don’t know how it works with others. But its not only me, it’s in cooperation with the board. When we want to go ‘far’ I ask for the authorisation of the board.”

Should I pay attention to the quote or some “it is understood”?

Heck, Wenger himself mentioned there that he is not the sole decision maker,

@Powderfinger

it’s in cooperation with the board.

[BigWeng_4LYFE]

Even if Wenger was handing our contracts it doesn’t matter. We weren’t competing with the Chelsea, United, or City spending so keeping us top 4 after the Emirates move without spending hundreds of millions in the transfer market, was a miracle and only Arsene could have done it. Whatever strategy Arsene had worked

[Trion]

@Powderfinger Why don’t you explain this if you think Wenger had all the say?

@Trion

You think Wenger is the man with full control over transfers & wages, and would go on to say this?

“Samir’s situation is clear for me,” Wenger said. “He stays. We are in a [financial] position where we can say ‘No’ and we will, in the case of Samir.” Wenger said that it was better to keep Nasri for another season and risk losing him for nothing than to sell him to United or City before the closure of the transfer window, even if it represented a £20m gamble.

“You are the same people who reproach me for not spending money and now you reproach me for wanting to spend it,” he added, with a smile. “It is in the interests of the club. Fábregas is in no-man’s land … Imagine the worst situation, that we lose Fábregas and Nasri; you cannot convince people that you are ambitious after that.”

[SRCJJ]

If only you knew how much bullshit you were truly spouting in this thread. You couldn’t be anymore ignorant if you tried in dismissing our standing in English football and saying with such fact what a “mid table” team we’d be without Wenger.

I’ll leave you to drown in your own ignorance

[Wivenswold]

I love and miss Wenger but he took us down this rabbit hole, as did the board, as did the coaching staff and of course, the players. In later years Wenger’s lack of tactical flexibility and disinclination to coach youngsters from the touchline contributed massively to our slow, painful decline.

In any disaster it’s usually a number of contributing factors that lead to the event though. I truly think that “injuries” is top of the list, followed by some poor signings, then never really rebuilding a defensive unit after the Invinsibles departed.

[Powderfinger]

@Trion

Should I pay attention to the quote or some “it is understood”?

Take a breath and read it again. Wenger says that, yes, he is the one who sets the overall wage structure. Then he adds that he goes to the board for authorization if he wants to pay a player exceptionally high wages.

[Trion]

@SRCJJ

You couldn’t be anymore ignorant if you tried in dismissing our standing in English football and saying with such fact what a “mid table” team we’d be without Wenger.

Yet none of you can show me one English so called “top club” of 80s & 90s, which managed to win a PL without
either a legendary manager like Wenger or Ferguson
or terrorist money

Forget PL, how many trophies did these top clubs win combined in 00s?

[BigWeng_4LYFE]

Our wage structure was a necessary evil. It was a calculated risk that ended up working out perfectly lmao.

[Trion]

@Powderfinger

Wenger said: “Yes. I don’t know how it works with others. But its not only me, it’s in cooperation with the board. When we want to go ‘far’ I ask for the authorisation of the board.”

@Powderfinger

Take a breath and read it again. Wenger says that, yes, he is the one who sets the overall wage structure. Then he adds that he goes to the board for authorization if he wants to pay a player exceptionally high wages.

Did he say that?

[Stroller]

Liverpool made two European cup finals without terrorist money.
I presume you would say Rafa a lesser manager than Wenger and Fergie.

[arsenescoatmaker]

@Stroller

Liverpool made two European cup finals without terrorist money.

The Fenway group pumped their own money into Liverpool though. We’ve never had money pumped into us while paying off a stadium loan.

[SRCJJ]

“Outliers” apparently mate.

[Stroller]

Not when they were in them finals. Fenway took over in 2011.

[DavidHillier]

Scouse bastards

[Trion]

@Stroller

Liverpool made two European cup finals without terrorist money.
I presume you would say Rafa a lesser manager than Wenger and Fergie.

Didn’t Wenger take the club to the CL final?

[Stroller]

Yes. And what. You asked for a top club in the 80s or 90s who won a major trophy. Gave you an answer.
Would you agree Rafa out performed Wenger in the CL?

[Trion]

@Stroller

Yes. And what. You asked for a top club in the 80s or 90s who won a major trophy. Gave you an answer.
Would you agree Rafa out performed Wenger in the CL?

I was talking about so called top clubs like Everton, Aston Villa, Newcastle.

And let just say Liverpool count as “so called top club”, in that case that 4-5 trophies in 20 seasons. Amazingly top club esque

[Stroller]

Never went 9 seasons in that period without a trophy though.

[Trion]

@Stroller

Never went 9 seasons in that period without a trophy though.

Went several seasons being midtable though and got sacked for it