Arsenal vs Bayern (CL) 2-2

I think we ended up blaming Jesus more so after that game (rightly or wrongly) after he dispossessed Maddison and just had to slot it past the 'keeper. Instead, he blazed it over.

That was the game.

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Nah, Jorginho got the blame that day. His wife got abuse for it as well I remember.

I mean, how does this matter ffs :laughing:

Because it was that bad. People were fuming at the dude that they bombarded his wife with messages to fuck out of Arsenal.

Here’s the chatter around that time.

Not Arsenal fans.

Nah, a couple here wanted him out that day if you check the link. :rofl:
Wouldn’t put it past more to be so pissed at him and dumb that they got angry at his wife posting a story of her and their kid celebrating when he came on, only for him to fuck up minutes later.

@Calum knew it was more Jesus than Jorginho that game (in terms of being responsible for thr draw).

Villifying Jorginho (and even more so his wife) was just a little sad and pathetic.

Dude, you forget one important things.

All the teams in this world are “buying” success.

What teams in early Wenger days, were actually spending a lot and buying success? Like right now?

Don’t just look at the figure itself, inflation pumps up the figures.
Which team in that era could could buy like City, Real, United, Chelsea, and now even Villa?

Bayern stealing from Bundesliga wasn’t even that bad at that time.

Blasphemy. Gabriel made a shitty pass but the only reason he’s even in that position in the first place is Raya inexplicably leaving his line.

And again, it’s not like I’m ignorant to the way Arteta wants Raya to play but we were in control, we’d just scored like five minutes prior and they weren’t up to a goddamn thing on the ball. It was so unnecessary and also the type of dumbass panicky move that got Ramsdale dropped.

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oh I completely forgot about that. He was literally on his own in front of goal and just decided to blast it into the car park :rofl:

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I know what you mean but shouldn’t we aim higher? This Bayern team ain’t all that much. We just need good tactics to beat them, even away, cause they have plenty of weaknesses at the back. And tactics is where Arteta comes in.

I think we should expect us to get to the semis with this team else it should count as a failure.

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Yeah, Say what you want about Wenger but he went up against Bayern sides that were actually full of talent and well coached.

This Bayern side is trash. I fully expect Arteta will adjust and we’ll blow them away

This is at the basis of my comments earlier today/yesterday. We really need to cut this BS out.

25% chance that if we make an error it leads to a goal. Horrible statistic for a top team.

The positive is that we don’t really concede much, but when we do…it often comes due to individual stupidity.

This, plus our lack of a killer upfront (debatable), are the two final pieces to fully unlock this team imho.

You’re really misinterpreting the data.

A high percentage of our conceded goals are caused by errors because we don’t concede much in general. This is a good thing.

Six goals conceded via error over the course of a season might be a tad high but doesn’t seem particularly abnormal.

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That stat is crap (I’m sure twitter loves it) and is open to bad interpretation, that % is based on the amount of goals we’ve conceded, which is quite low. The errors leading to goals is a big share of our goals conceded but that doesn’t really mean we’re error prone. In fact it shows the opposite in that the amount of errors is quite similar to other defensively resolute teams.

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It’s like Mark Twain (allegedly) said, there are lies, damn lies and statistics.

25% chance that if we leak a goal, it’s going to be due to an error, not the other way around.

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‘Error’ is going to be s stupidly objective metric too. Surely giving away a pen is an error but doesn’t appear to be represented here from what i can see.

I agree with this and that’s how I understood the chart.

This part.

Shouldn’t our errors leading to goals be similar to Real Madrid’s? In other words, if we cut the crap, we’d be a good 5+ points ahead right?

Cause it seems like in the games where we did drop points it was due to errors like a misplaced pass or slip that led to a counter attack and eventually goal.

We had plenty of those last season, though penalties aren’t included which makes the stat a little better than it really is for all teams.

Maybe I need to stay away from Twitter :joy:

Ahh ok, understood now.

That’s still a teeny bit concerning though, right? It’s it not a sign that we’re causing our own problems?

I would rather have the goals we concede be due to the opposition’s brilliance rather than our back 5 having a collective brain fart :joy: