U.S. Politics

People who are not left wing/right wing are usually far right. That’s what i have learned in my life.

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The best description of the political spectrum in the west is the horseshoe effect… Where the extremes on both sides are actually closer to each other than the center. Polisci is a interesting stuff.

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I find the traditional left/right with an added authoritarian/libertarian axis to be more useful

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Where’s your illustration, sir? I brought visual aids to my argument.

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Haha you made me chuckle. Ask and ye shall receive sir

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Interesting. Fascism originated from a sort of anarcho-socialism.

@NeedCoffee

Me and a few mates were doing this test today, it’s pretty interesting if you have a spare ten minutes or so. https://www.politicalcompass.org/test

I wasn’t surprised when I got my results tbh lol

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Hey, if working in corporate America has taught me anything it’s people are impressed by graphics and buzzwords. If you can incorporate buzzwords into your graph… that’s how you close deals, my friend.

Outline your political ideals specifically in relation to the UK

This in response to NeedCoffee?

No, just curiosity

What I meant was, who are you talking to?

You, sorry

Green Party are probably the best fit I suppose. Though current Labour aren’t a bad fit.

I’ve shown you mine so show me yours :smirk:

Nice try sneaking fascism into the left, it’s far right

Only if wikipedia is your only source of polisci information. Fascism is an offshoot of socialism and, which, in my opinion, brings it more in line with left wing politics. Not just my opinion either… obviously.

I’m Moderate Conservative, which is a bit pointless living in London.

I believe in limited government and empowering business through deregulation and low taxes even though I voted to remain in the EU and believed it in.

You’d never catch me voting for Corbyn’s Labour ever. His policies and ideals are ‘bloated’

That’s seems pretty debatable to me. Fascism is a friend of big business, no? Fascism is insular and nationalistic whereas socialism in the broadest sense is internationalist and about class solidarity rather than national solidarity. I might be ignorant of the history but the two don’t seem hugely compatible.

Even if I’m wrong about the link between the two, this is why the political model I posted is useful imo. It doesn’t place fascism and socialism automatically at opposite ends because the authoritarian/libertarian axis allows for more nuance, and can illustrate similarities between seemingly opposite parties/figures etc.

I’d appreciate some links to decent reading on the subject :+1:

Well that much was obvious from what you wrote right beforehand :smile:

As long as big business does what the state says. Yes.

I think people are confussed by the fact that good old Benito started his political career as a socialist (in a time where communism and socialism where pretty much the same).

There are many differences between the classical pre-WWII fascism and how fascism is seen now.

And big business is okay with the whole autarky thing.