Actually it’s pretty much common knowledge that the Republican establishment has been fighting Trump tooth and nail the whole way. He has had both sides superpac’s running ads against him. The people in this country are so unhappy with how corrupt the system is that they went our of their way to get TRUMP of all people as their representative for the election. Most of the money he’s raised are from private donations and his own personal wealth. Now don’t get me wrong I’m not naive enough to believe that he probably would favor laws that help him in his business dealings but at the same time it’s hard to imagine that he could care less about every day americans than Clinton and the special interests that have funded her.
You seem to have the wool over your eyes with respect to Trump, tbh. I hear a lot of the arguments your using from Trump apologists and none of them hold up to real skeptical critique. The man’s a walking disaster and indictment on the intelligence of the American public, and on its political system as a whole…much more than Hillary or any other more typical politician favouring certain interests which they need to for the sake of their party’s backing ever could be.
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@JakeyBoy I’d quantify her a career politician definitely. I think she’s someone who knew what direction she was going to go in from a young age but supporter her husband’s career. Most of her life before 2000 laid down the ground work for an eventual entry into politics. Even in terms of being a first lady I struggle to think of one more politically involved in serious issues than her.
I don’t think age factors into whether or not someone is a career politician either. It’s better to examine behavior such as seeking reelection as senator and seeking the dem nomination twice as typical behaviour of someone who’s sole focus is a career in politics.
@AbouCuellar Not denying Trump has had assistance to get where he is or that he doesn’t have his own allegiances but to what extent does he have in comparision to Hillary or even other establishment Republican candidates?
It seems like large sections of the electorate is fed up with establishment politics, his nomination was essentially propelled by the will of the people. Is he less compromised by special interests and long held political relationships than Hillary? I think so. Then again this is an objective observation of current events and current political climate rather than an endorsement of Trump.
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So it doesn’t concern you that during a security briefing he asked 3 times why pre-emptive nuclear strikes couldn’t be made?
So concerned they were that they’ve felt it necessary to make him the first candidate in history to have further security briefings.
Why exactly? He doesn’t pay honest small businesses and labourers for their services or labour. He fiddles his taxes so much that the IRS constantly audit him. Why would he give a fuck about the average Joe? He’d do away with Obamacare, ok for the rich I suppose.
He’s also likely commiting tax fraud, which the IRS hasn’t managed to prove. But it’s pretty obvious the house always wins with casinos. Yet his casinos ran up a 1 billion loss in the 90s and are losing money today. It’s quite as easy way to take taxable income out of a business by reporting losses on bets and syphening. Either that or he’s genuinely incompetant.
Anywhere from 40-200m from his pops. According to himself he was worth around 200m in 1982, if he’d put it in the stock market he’d be worth 7bn plus today, so yes he’s basically put his money in property and had a few business ventures, some giving returns, some going bankrupt.
Needless to say he isn’t a business mogul.
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I’m not gonna argue as I don’t really think he’s a good candidate for president but none of that info really changes my opinion that I’d rather have him as opposed to Clinton, who btw threatened military action on Russia because of the hacking of her emails lol.
And on a different note Obamacare hurts a lot of middle class more than it affects the top 1%.
I’ve just listened to the tape for the first time, and I’m not convinced it in any way describes assault. He said that women let you do what you want - and then he said grab them by the pussy etc.
Clearly he’s a total dickhead, with very poor morals, but to be honest, we’ve known this for years, so its not like some massive revelation for Trump supporters, they’ve already very willingly turned off the part of the brain that identifies psychopaths.
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IMO he’s quite clearly saying he does it without permission, but that he is allowed to get away with it. It’s clear because the grab them by the pussy comment directly follows the opening gambit of kissing them without permission. Unless what I’ve read and seen on the news is edited down to give the highlights so I think the comments are sequential.
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He does talk about kissing them without consent and grabbing their ‘pussy’ without asking and a woman has come out and accused him of sexually assaulting her in the work place.
The thing is though, while that isn’t right, it completely pales into obscurity the fact he thought it was acceptable to use nukes pre-emptively. But apparently that’s a none story and this immature locker room bragging is. American politics and priorities are completely mindboggling.
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What I find the sad part is that he’s probably not the only rich guy who thinks and does stuff like this.
From the BBC today:-
“And most Republican voters would appear to support his stance. In the first poll since the release of the tape, by Politico/Morning Consult, some 74% of Republican voters believe the party should continue to support him.”
My own musings earlier in this thread on the intelligence of your typical Republican voter have been answered 
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He should be called Teflon Trump.
In this country he would be held up as a laughing stock and ridiculed, yet it seems as if whatever he says or does doesn’t matter, and people will still vote for him.
Saying that, plenty of people in this country voted for Farage and his shambles of a party, with no policies apart from immigration, so we are no better than them.
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I think one noticeable trait at least here in the UK for your average Joe is that people aren’t easily offended.
Getting all upset by language is a very middle class preoccupation. Maybe it’s different for bible thumping American Republicans, but is that his base? He seems to me more like an independent with his own movement that’s stolen Republican clothes. No idea how true that statement is.
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One observation from listening to the tape again, is how totally matter of fact he is while making his comments. He isn’t laughing or joking like most men when they make vulgar and sexist remarks, he speaks just like the Trump you see discussing business on one of his shows. Total absence of humour. Strikes me as psychopathic actually.
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He beat her down in the debate only because this time he just attacked her for all her bs. When it comes to actually debating he’ll never beat a polished coached up politician. It was all mud slinging and that’s what he’s good at.
What a shit show!
It’s only because it’s Hillary Clinton that Donal Trump even has a chance.
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I don’t think there’s any doubt in that statement.
Just like most leaders, either in business or politics, they all have psychopathic tendencies, although he has more than most.
Just like Thatcher and her mental followers, he can’t be right wing enough.
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I cannot genuinely believe that the leader of the ‘free world’ will be one of these two- what a shambolic choice.
The debate was actually pretty tedious, it’s basically going to be a judgement on personality/character, with people voting for Clinton purely because they loathe the alternative. How many actual policies were discussed last night, there was no vision for a genuinely positive vision of the USA from either one of them.
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Ridiculous debate between two wrong choices for the White House.
Franklin, forgive them for they know not what they do 
I think Trump likes to divert any talk away from policies as his only policy involves building a massive wall between America and Mexico.