Granit Xhaka (34)


#1349

Definitely agree with this point.


#1350

Not seeing him as world class player at all and I don’t give a flying f*ck what role he is supposed to play, my primary issue is that he does the basic things, technically and decision-making, wrong too often to be a very good player for a top club, period.

Obviously our whole set up is a shambles right now and it exposes the worst of a lot of our players, including Xhaka, and that isn’t his fault but that doesn’t absolve him of making shambolic first touches, passes, or tackles.


#1351

In my opinion he can be a very good player for a top club, but sincerely 35M were too high for him.


#1352

Many seem to allude to that. Like he’ll be good if the team is set up to suit him and if he had a decent coach. You could make a similar argument for many midfielders though. Does he need a 3 man midfield? A hardworking partner? Someone that knows how to use space so it’s easy for him to find a pass other than struggle under pressure? A team that has 70% of the ball every game? And then what’s the upside? Above average long and mid-range distribution? You’d imagine the team would have to be setup in a very one dimensional way to truly take advantage of that.

I’m struggling to see where a top player is hiding in there. If he had been the 5m Egyptian from the Swiss league I think people would care as little about him as they do Elneny. I really think it’s his pricetag and maybe playing for a half decent German club that’s giving people hope that one day we’ll see something very good from him.

I think if you take their first 15 or so appearances for the club then Elneny has been a better midfielder but nobody has any hope for him being great in the future.


#1353

I havne’t given up on him yet, but my experience as been when those sorts of very basic weaknesses are revealed so early and often, on top of his obvious physical limitations, it tends to be a bad sign… I hope he turns into a great player b/c we need them.


#1354

Brilliant today. Love Xhaka.


#1355

Where was this passion this year. Looked more like the Xhaka we were promised today.


#1356

I really like him. Shift out the walking calamity that is Ramsey and get him in a proper partner for next season.


#1357

Better performance however that could be said of the entire team, liked the fact there were no stupid rash challenges and kept calm when tackled. Needs to speed up though, still too slow for my liking.


#1358

Good read. At least someone understands he’s not some shit flop


#1359

a nice read, but some of those stats are a bit meh.

‘Xhaka does ____ more than any other arsenal player’ is hardly a thumbs up given how shit we have been this season.


#1360

He’s been shit. But he’s gotten better and the new formation certainly seems to help him and protect him a bit more.

But you can throw a thousand stats at me. He’s played poorly so far and not come close to justifying his price tag.


#1361

Yeah this is pretty much it… he has gotten better in a few games, games where the team has overall functioned slightly less shambolically. He is better than Ramsey, but I am better than Ramsey tactically so that isn’t saying much. Our options in CM are actually pretty meh right now and that is sad as it used to always be one of our strengths.

Speaking of stats, Denilson often showed up really solidly in stats because the way we played and his style/role were always going to produce those inflated numbers - it is such lazy analysis to take stats like that out of context without the bigger picture.

The one thing that all our players need to learn to do better is micro-positioning… Xhaka has adopted the Arsenal habit of just managing to get on the wrong side of the opposition player on a regular basis and we don’t seem to know how to avoid that or react more intelligently when we do - we often then tackle from behind, nip on the side, or generally bounce off the opponent because we don’t have a good angle on the ball or a way to steer them towards defensive support. Ramsey is perhaps the player who does this the worst I have ever seen at the top level - it is farcical how reliably he gets wrong side.


#1362

If you torture stats long enough they’ll tell you anything. See Theos superior stats to KDB and the mess that was Cuellar trying to prove that Giroud wad better than Ronaldo :joy:


#1363

imo it’s an outdated mindset to not rate a player like Xhaka. He’s always been class.


#1364

No he hasn’t. For most of the season he’s look very poor. He’s lacked composure under pressure, been very slow, often out of position and his passing hasn’t been what we expected (at times). Not to mention his horrible tackling and disciplinary record.

His improvements are positive. And many of us still have faith in him. But saying he’s always been class is a massive massive overstatement.


#1365

Proof you’ll get approval for any old shit as long as you’re a girl :joy:


#1366

Adblocked that stupid xhaka face. will never see it again yessssssss


#1367

:joy:


#1368

Was good against the Foxes but they didnt really close him down or harrass him, be interesting to see if he can cope and WHL on Sunday.