Arsène Wenger

[BradyMagic]

You can still want things changed without having to want Arsene Wenger to be sacked......how about just asking Wenger to change?

[Walsho]

You can still want things changed without having to want Arsene Wenger to be sacked......how about just asking Wenger to change?

That is something I have been wishing for at least 2 years. There comes a time when you give up on him changing.

There's nothing I'd want more then for Arsenal to be winning trophies under Wenger again. I just can't see it happening though.

[kaner]

You can still want things changed without having to want Arsene Wenger to be sacked......how about just asking Wenger to change?

of corse you can but walso wants him sacked

[Hassan]

Has Wenger's transfer policy paid off? No

Club's transfer policy*

Wenger's not the only one responsible for the policy, it's the budget set by the whole group.

[BradyMagic]

Has he actually said that? I genuinely don't know either way but even so if you want someone to change for the better and they either can't or won't then what else is there?

He's certainly made changes in the past 2-3 years that when some of us were calling for those changes we were given short shift and yet most now recognise that we have benefited from them.......he just needs to go that little bit more now.

EDIT: For what it's worth I don't even believe we have a transfer policy and any restrictions are of Wenger's doing.

[kaner]

ive seen him say that before thats why i asked the question...

[kaner]

He's certainly made changes in the past 2-3 years that when some of us were calling for those changes we were given short shift and yet most now recognise that we have benefited from them.......he just needs to go that little bit more now.

like what? (again genuine question not trying to "trip you up")

[Hassan]

How did you feel the day before Carling cup?

That it was a massive day for the club and that success would mean a lot more than what it seemed. Nothing was different regarding the club's transfer policy though, they were still needlessly penny pinching and didn't boost the squad at a vital time to help them overcome any injury problems following that. We were in all the competitions at the time but we'd already seen terrible collapses in the league so that was off our checklist, we knew Barcelona away was going to be extremely difficult so that was a 50-50 and the FA Cup was also an extremely tough one away at United.

At the time, with all things considered, the Carling Cup was the only realistic competition Arsenal had a serious chance of winning in my eyes. In regards to the club, they chose to sacrifice the improvement of the squad to save a relatively small amount of money.

[BradyMagic]

No it's OK, I know you're not like that kaner.

I can answer best for myself of course but know that others shared my view on some or all of them but for example, people were saying that:

• Alumina wasn't up to the job long before anything was done about it .
• That we needed more of an aerially dominant/physical presence at the back when we had Gallas and Toure and then he signed Vermaelen and Campbell.
• Wanting more finished article players like Arshavin and Vermaelen signed and now Gervinho.
• To pay a bit more than around the usual £10million mark for players, which he then did with Arshavin, Nasri and Vermaelen.
• Take the captaincy off Gallas after the Brum game....better late than never I suppose.
• Wilshere should have been in ahead of Denilson and Diaby earlier than he was.
• Spend a reasonable amount on a preferably PL experienced centre half and not try to keep getting unsuitable ones the Silvestre and Squillaci on the cheap
• Take the CC a bit more seriously even if the final outcome was a let down.
• Don't be so blinkered towards bringing young English players through like Wilshire, Gibbs and Lansbury.
• That Clichy had become a weak link and Wenger ultimately didn't exactly fight tooth and nail to keep him here.

Those as just some examples from thinking on the spot but I'm sure there are others too.

[Adams6]

The regime driving the club is motivated only by money. They have no interest in you or I, or any other stakeholder for that matter, just a contribution of their hard-earned wealth. I've been patient to draw conclusions and beliefs, but I feel all my care and loyal following of the Arsenal FC has been placed at the hands of people of ill-intentions. Men who have no passion for Arsenal Football Club, nor respect for it's loyal fan-base.

Wenger and the board employing him are the corporate equivalent of a group of compulsive liars and deceitful con-artists. They continue to cheat the masses despite all the devotion and faith given to them. They've betrayed Arsenal Football Club, they've engaged in a mesmerising lusty affair with Miss Private Greed whilst telling their wife of 100 years, Mrs. Arsenal that good times are ahead. The years gone by have unfolded the truth behind all the lies and slowly but surely, every single false promise is coming to light.

The transition to the Emirates Stadium was just a ploy to make more money for shareholders. It was never in the interest of the fans, it's all been about private greed, not social good. They have no interest in the North London community, they don't take initiatives to help the environment around them. These men saw Arsenal FC's rise as a unique opportunity to make an absolute killing for themselves. They knew the club's budget was never going to be enough to compete with the other clubs; but they'd already committed to prioritising the rise of their revenue and decrease in their expenditure. They have Mr. Arsene Wenger who is there to take all the hits and they've used his past reputation as a means to convince people that a revival is possible. They hope that he brings about a surprise trophy to truly make supporters believe that this is all for real. But Arsenal's glory came before the big money-making opportunity. It's all one big scam, Arsenal is primarily a business now.

What the club and it's manager are continuously doing is keeping us at bay, just enough so we don't cause a stir. They attempt to appease us quietly, by conjuring up audacious claims in the media and employing a culture that makes protest an unenviable task and one that is frowned upon. They want the fans to be yes-men and they've been successful in doing so, until recently.

Now it's all becoming apparent and reactions against the club are becoming less surprising and frequent. Supporters can sense turmoil on the horizon and are eventually going to realise this band of thieves are cheating them. But even they expected this to happen.

Expect attempts to appease to rise, they've probably already made plans to get away with the money that's gone into their back-pockets. They've done their job and have milked as much as they could out of Arsenal Football Club. They've stabbed Arsenal in the back and by the time enough people realise this, the damage will have been done. The group by then would have already sold and headed out the back-door with their riches. No protests would revive Arsenal by then.

You do know we had a policy of not paying dividends right? There was talk of that changing a few months back but I can't find confirmation it has.

As for no interest for the north London community LOL

When planning began to move to a new stadium in 1999, Arsenal wanted to remain in Islington, the home of the Club since 1913, and in the process do much more for the local area than simply build the Club a new home.

Emirates Stadium was the obvious focal point of Arsenal Football Club’s move but it was also the catalyst for substantial regeneration in the area and a host of other projects.

Included within the £390 million redevelopment programme was major inward investment into an area which suffered from serious deprivation and had seen little investment in recent years.

The regeneration of over 60 acres of land within the Borough is still taking place and has been the medium for significant urban regeneration in and around Islington.

Arsenal in the Community’s programme intensified on moving to the new stadium with an investment of over £1.8million from the Highbury section 106. The department’s consistent engagement with young people via its social inclusion projects have also been the catalyst for the regeneration of pitches around the Borough.

As one of the largest regeneration schemes in Europe, the Emirates Stadium project provided enormous benefits to the local community which included the creation of over 2,600 new jobs through the development, which included more than 1,800 long-term positions.

As part of the project, the removal of economically inefficient industrial and waste management buildings were replaced with a brand new £60 million state-of-the-art Waste Recycling Centre which has contributed towards the increase of Islington’s recycling rates. The centre also services the boroughs of Camden, Hackney and Haringey. Since its opening in 2004, an award-winning interactive education centre in partnership with the Science Museum has been created.

Affordable housing formed a huge part of the regeneration programme and 2,500 new and refurbished homes, of which 40 per cent are classified as affordable housing, as well as substantial key worker housing was also created.

Additional benefits included significant investment in local businesses, new areas of public space, making the streets safer for local residents and pedestrians, investment into the transport network and pathways to employment through construction. Funds were also made available to local communities through schemes such as the Gunners Community Fund, which assisted small schemes such as local nurseries and neighborhood watch schemes and the Arsenal FC Community Benefit Fund which has awarded over £500,000 to local community groups for projects and activities which address the needs of disadvantaged communities within Holloway and Highbury.

The Arsenal Learning Centre was also been built for the local community in the Northern Triangle Building on Emirates Stadium podium, offering a vast range of different courses for all ages.

Youngsters on the Arsenal Kickz and Positive Futures Schemes have also benefitted from regeneration in the Borough. Thanks to investment from partners, Homes for Islington, Islington Council, Arsenal in the Community and former Arsenal player, Dennis Bergkamp there has been significant upgrade to pitches in local parks and on estates where Arsenal in the Community’s social inclusion projects take place.

New areas of public open space have been generated, including a new park at Lough Road West, at Lough Road East, the Gillespie Park extension, as well as the Podium around Emirates Stadium itself.

A study commissioned by the LDA and carried out by KPMG evaluated that the stadium project yields £35 million worth of community benefits.

[Trion]

See!
There is a substantial amount of returns for loud mouths who go on about how they pay for season tickets and crap like that..

Give the club sometime.
I suffer the similar amount of heart breaks that all of you go through, but ofcourse we can afford some patience with our club which is upto something which is more than trophies.

And Patience comes Free.

[DaVinche14]

See!
There is a substantial amount of returns for loud mouths who go on about how they pay for season tickets and crap like that..

Give the club sometime.
I suffer the similar amount of heart breaks that all of you go through, but ofcourse we can afford some patience with our club which is upto something which is more than trophies.

And Patience comes Free.

6 years is more than patience tbf. I appreciate all Arsene has done in the past, but football is a dynamic game and with a manager who is static so to speak, I think our future lays elsewhere manager-wise. From the stubborn transfer policy and Sunday league tactics, to praising players after a shit performance, it's all bollocks. Success is determined on the pitch, if Arsene is playing for fourth he should go. End of.

[pyram]

Watching all this friendly games it looked like wenger was making fun of the fans.Otherwise, I cannot explain how he can be so cool about constantly throwing away leads.If we carry on in the league the fashion of the last 5 games then we are serious relegation contenders.

[Gooner-Wasp]

For what it's worth I don't even believe we have a transfer policy and any restrictions are of Wenger's doing.

I agree 100% BM

[shamrockgooner]

Watching all this friendly games it looked like wenger was making fun of the fans.Otherwise, I cannot explain how he can be so cool about constantly throwing away leads.If we carry on in the league the fashion of the last 5 games then we are serious relegation contenders.

Thats a pretty big if Pryam...As I've illustrated above